Monday, January 7, 2019

Boys Forfeiting to Girls

I’ve been involved as a coach in the women’s wrestling world for 15 years.  Last weekend was the first time that I’ve had an opposing wrestler forfeit to one of my female wrestlers because she was a female.  I’ve seen it happen and have talked to many girls who have had it happen to them.  In fact, it’s more common than cauliflower ear in girl’s wrestling.  Nearly every female wrestler has experienced a male opponent forfeiting to them based on their gender.

There are a couple of decent explanations and several that are outlandish.  As a wrestling community, it’s important that we openly discuss all of them without judgement.  So, let’s do it.

We were at a varsity tournament on Saturday and midway through the day, one of the tournament organizers informed me that the opponent of my female athlete was going to forfeit to her.  He wasn’t injured and wasn’t pulling out the tournament, just not wrestling the girl. It created a bit of confusion on how to enter the “forfeit” into the system because if he forfeited, he wouldn’t be able to wrestle anymore matches that day.  So, it was entered as an “injury default” so he could wrestle the next two rounds.

After the tournament, I asked my female wrestler and two of her female teammates how they felt about the situation.  The discussion was enlightening.  

It was also very important.

Since girls started participating in wrestling, it’s been common place for boys or male coaches to decide one way or the other if they wanted to compete against them.  We’ve given males a free pass to pass in this space. The decision to wrestle or not to wrestle rest solely in the lap of the male wrestler.  The female has no say beyond deciding to wrestle in the first place.  Sometimes there are repercussions (losing a match, not advancing), but no one really has to explain themselves, so we never know for sure why it’s done. We assume things and there are cookie-cutter explanations, but we never discuss them in an attempt to learn and grow in this subject area.

If the wrestling team has a cross on their singlet or is a private institution, we assume it’s for “religious” reasons and then mum's the word.  It also seems to happen when it’s convenient, not when it actually costs them something (with the exception of a state tournament default at the Iowa State Tournament in 2011).  

This leads me to beg the question, is this done out of convenience or conviction?  Are those who are forfeiting really thinking about the decision?  Thinking about others?  His opponent?

My personal stance on it is this (and other difficult decisions): if you are convicted, you should follow through on that conviction no matter what it costs. Would the forfeit that occurred in a “meaningless” match at the New Richmond Invitational also occur in the wrestleback to make it to state or in the state finals?  If it’s a difficult decision rooted in conviction, I applaud the decision.  The decision should be the same regardless of what's at stake.

If the decision is done out of convenience, regardless of the reason being used, it’s cowardly.  If it’s “just the way it is,” or if religious belief is used as a smoke screen, I think we need to call that way of thinking out and have an honest dialogue about what’s taking place.

If every state offered sanctioned female wrestling, this is a non-issue.  I’ve done my homework and there’s not one explanation that justifies not adding girl’s wrestling at the HS level.  Adding girl’s wrestling might be difficult for many reasons, but it’s the right thing to do and must be done.  But we haven’t made that kind of progress yet, so we’re forced to deal with uncomfortable situations like this.  I am not in favor of girls competing against boys, but right now the girls don’t have a choice.

While discussing this topic with my three female athletes and recalling the other female wrestlers I’ve talked to about this, their sentiments have never been a feeling of respect.  This part of the conversation matters.  It might not change the outcome, and I’m fine with that, however, IF part of the reason not to compete against a female in a combat sport is to “respect women,” I think we need to ask if women are actually feeling respected by the act.  Because it appears as if most feel the opposite.  And MEN, that does matter.  How a woman perceives our attempt to respect her needs to be taken into account.

I am a Christ follower and believe Biblical Manhood is one of the greatest voids in our society today. So, I understand those who choose not to participate for “religious” reasons (even though I despise the term “religious”).  We need to actively teach boys to treat women with respect – physically, emotionally and intellectually.   Personally, I don’t hold the same conviction for high school boys on a varsity wrestling team, but that’s not a reason to divide the church.  I choose not to drink alcohol because I have a very clear Christ-centered conviction not to do so.  Many of my Christian friends enjoy alcohol.  No problem.  So, I can agree to disagree, however, I would like to have an objective conversation about this.  In the same tournament, a young man from a family that is respected for their outward Christian faith chose to compete against the same female.

We all have a responsibility to embrace and respect each other’s differences.  Combat sports should be no different.  I want my male athletes (and my sons) to respect their opponent and all of humanity regardless of gender, race, etc.  I also want to be a part of a culture that lives life from conviction, not convenience.  That’s hard.

4 comments:

  1. Since both genders can wrestle, in my opinion a male wrestler shouldn't forfeit their match just because their opponent is female. If their idea is "I don't want to be sexist" then they're defeating their own argument by forfeiting because he's up against a woman, if it's because they're not comfortable with it then they need the right guidance to open their minds, it's high school wrestling. Everyone should compete with one anothr regardless of gender, race, etc. At the end of the day it's his decision and it's his choice to decide if he wants to or not and that has to be respected as well.

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  2. I would never fault a boy for not wrestling a girl. Weather its for religious beliefs or just because it makes them uncomfortable. Our society in my opinion has strayed to far away from men being men and women being women....and that's not in any way shape or form meant to meen one is better than the other. Being male I would argue that women are far better than men just because God gave them the most important job in the world. To grow life in their bodies. This doesn't mean I think women are good for only one thing.....but they are good at the most important thing. When a boy wrestles a girl do we think about how it make that boy feel? They are in a no win situation.

    I love watching girls wrestling and want to see it grow ...but I fully support girls wrestling girls and boys wrestling boys.

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  3. Very interesting conversation and great one to have. I have an interesting twist to add. Both my daughter and son wrestle. My son started first and I remember in his first match against a girl he was worried he would hurt her and was leery to wrestle her the same he would a boy. I remember telling him at the time he better wrestle her just the same bc she wasn’t going to go easy because he was a boy, in fact, she would probably wrestle him harder than his male opponents (and she did!) He went out and wrestled her and life went on - and he has a great rivalry with that same girl to this day. The next year my daughter decided she wanted to wrestle. In our State at the club level we have coed and a girls division, so girls can wrestle just girls if they choose or wrestle both boys and girls in two different “divisions”. My daughter chose to do both because she said she wanted to be able to prove she was just as tough as boys. The interesting thing was my son questioned why she could wrestle for two medals at each tournament (one in girls division and one in the boys division) yet he could only wrestle for one medal in the “co-Ed” division, he asked repeatedly why he couldn’t wrestle in the girls division to get a second medal. I didn’t really have an answer for him other than that’s just the way it works. He got in a medal competition with his sister and since she could wrestle both divisions she was able to get double the medals. My son has a problem with that stating it’s not fair. It’s not.
    My daughter has had boys decline to wrestle her but only in practice settings never in tournament settings. I did see at our State tournament last year when my daughter was head butt accidentally in her face, which resulted in a big bloody nose, her male opponent, although not completely, did not wrestle her as hard as he had started the match to complete it. He was obviously shaken and showed concern that he had hurt her. She finished the State competition last year but obviously not giving her 100 because she was scared of getting whacked in the face again. I am sure as she continues in her wrestling career however, and goes up in age brackets she will eventually face forfeitures from boys. I have a feeling though that since she is starting at the younger level and “growing up” with these boys in their weight divisions she has a better chance of that not occurring...for the same reason my son has a great rivalry with the first girl he wrestled. He enjoyes wrestling her and says she gives him a great challenge.
    Some parents have told me they have refrained from letting their sons wrestle girls due to “roles” I.e. they don’t feel their boys should be putting their hands on women in the manner wrestling requires and vice versa had parents tell me they don’t want their daughters “manhandled” so they will only wrestle In the girls division. I do feel that if a girl wants to wrestle in the boys division she should be allowed as she is aware of her choice and that she has a good chance at getting hurt - just like any boy, and there should be no expectations of the boys going easy on them. I also see my sons side in feeling it isn’t quite fair that girls get to wrestle more and possibly get more medals for same wrestling....I.e. girls wrestling in both girls only and coed divisions.
    To address more specifically your post I also don’t think matches should be forfeited and still be able to medal bc of whatever your reason for forfeiting wrestling against a girl. She’s an opponent - she chose to put herself in the line of fire so she should be wrestled against at the same level of intensity as a male opponent. You said this boy was able to continue wrestling that day without any loss - if he chose to forfeit he should have been finished for the day not allowed to continue due to whatever “reason” he chose as his reason for not wrestling a girl. The only way to truly avoid this from happening is to keep the divisions separate - girls only wrestle girls and boys vs boys...but then we are where we were.

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  4. Well I have 13 yr old twin boys who have both wrestled girls and one lost a close match to a girl at schoolboy duals last year. The same one had one tournament in Vegas that the only decent matches he got were from a girl out of California who chose to only enter the "OPEN" division not the girls (I suspect she would have had good competition in her girls division). Neither has EVER forfeited to a girl and I know never will.

    I still remember the first time Riley wrestled Evelyn a local girl, he was 5 I totally missed the match because Bowen was in a tie break match on the other end of the gym. Riley hit me at a full run totally excited shouting to me "mom I just beat a girl!". You'd have thought it was the coolest thing ever.

    Riley to this day will tell anyone he thinks everyone that steps on amat is a wrestler, no boy, no girl . . . . just wrestlers. He does not think there should be any girls divisions (like one of the commenter's sons on the blog he doesn't think it's "fair" they get to wrestle more. While the Bowen acknowledges that at a certain point especially after puberty girls pound for pound seem to have different strength to body weight ratio that makes it more difficult for them to remain as competitive with boys.

    Personally, after watching the incredible girls we have at our gym and knowing how hard they work and how nasty even adults have been to them through the years I lean towards feeling it really is being pretty disrespectful to not wrestle them. I think if you forfeit you forfeit suck it up and deal with your decision. The girls are not going away so get over applying your every day life stereotype in this one situation that it really does not apply to OR go play basketball.

    As my boys will tell you losing sucks regardless of whether its a boy or a girl. I'm much more proud of how they support the girls on their club and school teams than I am of all the wins they've had and will have.

    Here's to our girls, Taylor, Olivia and Ali.

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